Talk:Moon Prism Power, Make Up

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Chibi-usa also uses this phrase to change into Sailor Chibimoon thoughout S and the very beginning of SuperS... should a separate page be made for Chibi-usa's? --Dianne 17:41, 2 June 2006 (MST)

You know, I realised the same thing yesterday. I think we should keep them on the same page, in separate sections. As for the infobox, I think we should use the colour code for 'multiple' (which we'll probably have to use for Moon Crisis Make Up as well). Dooky 18:01, 2 June 2006 (MST)

Someone pls add a dot b/n the katakana of "make up" (don't know how to type it). 210 17:41, 1 August 2006 (MST)

Slight nitpick: the sparkling nails appearead for the first time in episode 7 - before that she'd just raise her hand.
(BTW, I've always thought the "prism" referred to the planet-colored stones in the brooch; a bit of Mercury power, and a bit of Mars power... I recall there was a discussion once on AFSM on whether it should be read as "moon-prism power = Power of the Moon Prism" or as "moon prism-power = Prismatic Power of the Moon".) --Rosen 14:32, 24 August 2006 (MST)

The Chinese translation goes w/ the former. I've also been thinking that the "prism" has sthg to do w/ her brooch. 210 17:46, 24 August 2006 (MST)
The thing is, Chibiusa uses the same transformation, and I think the only jewel in her brooch is pink. So I'm not sure there's necessarily much significance to it. dooky 18:44, 24 August 2006 (MST)
I've never tried to read any meaning into any of the transformation/attack phrases. I mean, "uterus", people. Kerochan no Miko 19:46, 24 August 2006 (MST)
I don't think it has anything to do w/ the detailed layout design of the brooches. It's just the brooches themselves that are related to the prism thing. That's only my impression, of course. 210 21:39, 24 August 2006 (MST)

Chibiusa[edit]

The fact that she didn't really have a true transformation sequence for so long should definitely be mentioned (as the first version wasn't really a transformation sequence in the way other Senshi had them). When she actually did get one, it was pretty damn scary, admittedly. Am I right in thinking it was only used twice? The S movie and the first episode of SuperS? Possibly three times, I'm not sure. This article also needs to be fixed to comply with our in-universe perspective rule, but then so do most articles here, it seems... dooky 21:07, 24 August 2006 (MST)

Yeah, just a few times as I recall it. Maybe because it's too scary. lol 210 21:31, 24 August 2006 (MST)
I don't think I understand what you mean by "in-universe perspective" here - could you elaborate? Kerochan no Miko 22:01, 24 August 2006 (MST)
See this policy. In this case, it would mean stuff like "this was seen in the S movie" would have to be moved to a notes section, and descriptions should be shifted into the past tense. Admittedly it's tricky to deal with transformation sequences from an in-universe perspective, because it isn't clear if they're "really" happening as they appear. dooky 23:56, 24 August 2006 (MST)

Edit thingies[edit]

Rosen, what's the purpose of your latest edit? (I've experimented it & find no diff., but I'm no Wiki expert.) 210 00:19, 25 August 2006 (MST)

I'm thinking it would prevent layout problems on extremely high-res displays. If the text is spread out over a wider area, it takes up fewer lines. But pictures remain the same size, and I suspect the Sailor Moon pic was colliding with the start of the Chibi Moon section. dooky 00:25, 25 August 2006 (MST)
Correct; the Chibi Moon header appeared at the lower right corner of the first image when I looked at the page in full screen mode. --Rosen 00:51, 25 August 2006 (MST)
Oh, if only I knew more about Wiki, I might also have solved my own display problem in some pages w/ img caused by my tiny screen. *sigh* 210 05:48, 25 August 2006 (MST)

PGSM[edit]

Is there an official name for Usagi's transformation thingey in PGSM? I looked and couldn't find one, does anyone have the toys? Kerochan no Miko 21:02, 25 August 2006 (MST)

I suppose you meant the lipstick? If so, I dunno either. 210 03:20, 26 August 2006 (MST)
According to Sailor Dream Usagi's brooch and lipstick are called the Heart Moon Brooch and, more simply, lipstick.[1]GracieLizzie 07:40, 26 August 2006 (MST)
Heart Moon Brooch works for me. Kerochan no Miko 09:48, 26 August 2006 (MST)
I love how incredibly pointless the lipstick seems in the series. But, then again, you could wonder, would Usagi still be able to transform into Sailor Moon without the lipstick? WaterKnight 03:52, 1 January 2008 (MST)
Of course not - well, actually I've no idea of the exact mechanism of her transformation. lol Anyway, I guess the idea came from Haruka's & Michiru's transformations, & since the outer Senshi wouldn't appear in PGSM, they just adapted it into Usagi's transformation. --210 05:08, 1 January 2008 (MST)

The screencap needs to be of the final pose, not mid-transformation, for consistency... Kerochan no Miko 14:05, 27 August 2006 (MST)

Sorry again, I changed the screenshot. (^_^) Marjolein 14:38, 27 August 2006 (MST)

Manga[edit]

At the moment this article discusses the anime and PGSM only. I'd like to talk about the manga too, but I'm not sure how much can be said. Might be nice to bring in info from the musicals (I doubt Sailor Moon ever used it in the musicals, but I guess Chibiusa could have in the early ones) and maybe even some of the games. This was mentioned as a possible featured article, and I think it would make a very good one if we could flesh out these details a little more. dooky 05:56, 30 August 2006 (MST)

I need to re-check it, but if it was at all used in the musicals it was the first one - in the S myu she used 'Moon Cosmic Power' and Chibi Moon transformed between scenes. (How it's done onstage is interesting in itself though mostly from an out-of-universe perspective.) The manga henshin definitely needs to be addressed in some way. I see what you mean, though; there's no "sequence" to describe in one-panel transformations. Well, what is it that we can see? Lights blinking and swirling around her, wind lifting her hair, an apparent loss of clothing. More? --Rosen 07:21, 30 August 2006 (MST)
The manga transformations generally seem to be near-instantaneous. It's probably pointless to describe them individually as they all look pretty much the same. What can be discussed, however, is the circumstances surrounding the transformation's use: what it requires, when it was first used, what replaced it and so on.
I would guess that Sailor Moon used Moon Crystal Power in the first Myu, given that it it began in summer 1993. So it probably won't need discussing here, but do add any info on Myu transformations to the other relevant articles. The in-universe/out-of-universe divide is a bit thinner for musicals, and we'll probably have to wait until there's a bit more information here before we formulate a policy. But if you want to add OOU info to a specific section, you can try putting it in italics. dooky 10:33, 30 August 2006 (MST)