Talk:Sera Myu

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Again, I don't know much about the Myus (other than the SuperS one being really good), so could someone with greater knowledge on the subject please fill out this article? Also, I've decided not to list the millions of Kaiteibans and Specials here, because I think it'd make things less cluttered to have them linked from the respective articles of the main musicals. Dooky 13:29, 28 May 2006 (MST)

Well, Ai no Sanctuary counts for me as a separate musical, even if it's a special one. The same goes for Kakyuu Ouhi Kourin...it's supposed to be the Kaiteiban of Starlights Ryuusei Densetsu. But it's so different, that it can count as a separate Myu...--Kasumi

Ah, I knew it would be more complicated than I thought... ^_^ In that case, go right ahead and add any you think should be considered separate. I've only heard/seen a handful of these so I was winging it a bit with this article... Dooky 14:31, 28 May 2006 (MST)
I agree with Kasumi. Plenty of the revisions of the Sailor Moon musicals are so different from their original versions, it doesn't make sense to have each version in one article. Also, the cast list (usually only minor characters) almost always changes between the original and revision, and the revision features song changes. Having separate articles for the originals and revisions may clutter the main myu index, but the individual articles will be less cluttered and can have the actual song listing from each production... --Dianne 17:27, 2 June 2006 (MST)
That's fair enough - I'll leave it up to you guys. My idea was to link to the original versions from here, and then having links to the revised versions from them. But however you want to structure the page, go for it. Dooky 17:32, 2 June 2006 (MST)

Black Lady Kaiteiban?[edit]

Wasn't there a Black Lady Kaiteiban too? With the male Petz? Is probably the only Kaiteiban I've heard of :P Dooky 23:10, 2 June 2006 (MST)

Kay, I know this is really old, but... That was really a male Petz? Like, the actor was male? It's explain the voice...--Sailor Biccy 17:02, 13 January 2008 (MST)
Yes. As noted on the article for the Black Lady Kaiteiban, Petz was played there by the very male Shuusuke Yoda. Don't ask me why...especially since in the original Black Lady myu she was played by a woman. Kerochan no Miko 17:05, 13 January 2008 (MST)


There is :) I'll add it... But I'm not sure about this one: if my memory isn't failing me...there's a third "Eien Densetsu"; it's the "Eien Densetsu: Final First Stage". I'm prett sure that it's different from the Kaiteiban...can anyone check that? ^^ --Kasumi
Wikipedia seems to think that the Kaiteiban and Final First Stage are the same thing, although it depends how much you trust their info. Dooky 07:25, 3 June 2006 (MST)
Yeah, I've been checking...it seems that they're the same. But thanks anyway :) --Kasumi
Yep, Final First Stage IS the revision of the Eien Densetsu musical. There is also the senshuuraku performance, which is different from both the original and revision versions. I must have forgotten to put Black Lady Kaiteiban on there. XD Sorry. --24.16.9.186 10:38, 3 June 2006 (MST)

Stage Out[edit]

I was just reading about the different conventions for determining the musical 'stages'. In the Myu template I've included a 'stage' field, but which convention should we use? Or should we have two fields, one for each convention? dooky 11:47, 23 August 2006 (MST)

The first stage will be simple enough, but for the others, we could have something like "Third (Japanese) / Fourth (Western)". In the main article, the differences between the two systems are described clearly enough that I think people will know what it means. Michie 11:59, 23 August 2006 (MST)

Romanisation policy[edit]

New policy: If the actor's official page has a romanisation, use that. If not, Google all forms of the name and use the most common romanisation. dooky 17:12, 31 August 2006 (MST)

Musical Titles[edit]

Our general policy so far has been to not include the sub-titles of musicals; if someone wants to change it, I'm open to that as long as it's consistent. This means that we have the Second Stage Final and the Marinamoon Final listed as well as the Final First Stage. Michie 20:14, 22 September 2006 (MST)

The edit feature seems to be locked, so can someone fix these musical titles? "Marina Moon Final" should be "Marinamoon Final", as it is on the official merchandise. And, if we're going with the subtitles, Kakyuu-Ouhi should be called "Kakyuu-Ouhi Kourin - The Second Stage Final". If anyone needs proof, I can direct you to official merchandise, or check Eternal Legend. Michie 16:49, 4 October 2006 (MST)

I've unlocked it for you.--WikiSysop 22:20, 4 October 2006 (MST)

Links[edit]

I disagree with the inclusion of Myu-Style in the links list - there's pretty much nothing on that site to merit it being linked as a good reference. It seems to me that Musical Moon would be a better site to link. Kerochan no Miko 15:14, 25 September 2006 (MST)

Musical Moon is a must. Also, it seems that Myu-Style is just starting...it still lacks a lot of info to be considered a complete site o.o Kasumi 15:31, 25 September 2006 (MST)

The link to Myu-Style was removed because the site has no information on it. Whoever keeps trying to add it, you need to tell us why it deserves to be here. Kerochan no Miko 21:18, 28 September 2006 (MST)

I removed the additional external link because it needs to go on WikiMoon Web, not here; the current links are only there because they were present before the decision was made regarding external links and they're allowed to stay until we have somewhere else to put them. Kerochan no Miko 11:02, 7 March 2007 (MST)

Pluto loving Endymion?[edit]

What specific musical was this in? We're trying to cite the source for it over at Wikipedia, so if anyone knows that would be awesome. -- WP's Masamage, 67.189.9.154 09:34, 5 October 2006 (MST)

It was in two musicals, Eien Densetsu and Shin Densetsu Kourin (plus their kaiteibans). Specifically, it's in connection to the song Onna no Ronsou (after Pluto saves Beryl because she understands her), though she does makes a snide remark or two about Beryl's inability to handle unrequited love elsewhere in the stories. --Rosen 13:32, 5 October 2006 (MST)
Wow, awesome. Thank you very much! -- Masamage, 67.189.9.154 14:14, 8 October 2006 (MST)


SeraMyu antics appears to be down for some reason. Google cache shows me it was last retrieved on dec 23rd 2006... is it only by me? - 85.217.214.15

1) Please sign your comments.
2) We only link to the site and don't run it, so this really isn't the best place to ask about problems with it. It does, however, work fine for me. Kerochan no Miko 12:47, 5 January 2007 (MST)


Still in Hiatus[edit]

Until there is an official announcement comes out that Sera Myu is over I Say that the page should still say that there on Hiatus! I say that if there is no activity by the end of this year (2009) then I will rest my case. EDIT:6 Month then I will give up. June 24, 2009 Jrrutten

I don't expect there'll be any official announcement on that. lol And in any case, soon we'll be at the end of this year before we know it (it's been 5 years since PGSM, & more than a decade since the anime/manga - all before we know it lol). --210 22:52, 10 April 2009 (MST)
And I say that unless there is an official announcement that there will be more musicals the page will stay as it is. Given that it's been four years with absolutely no indication whatsoever that there will be more musicals, chances are very good that they're over. And if by some bizarre miracle another one goes into production, we can always change to reflect that news, rather than giving people any sense of false hope. Kerochan no Miko 23:35, 10 April 2009 (MST)

Soo...[edit]

Why DOES this wikia use the Western-fan stage numbers. o.O When there are official ones that are also part of the titles... Cartwheelingfiesta 23:43, 18 February 2011 (MST)

What do you mean? Kerochan no Miko 23:53, 18 February 2011 (MST)
On all the musical pages such as Kakyuu-ouhi it says "Stage Four", as opposed to saying "Two" Its not called 'The Second Stage Final' for no reason... Cartwheelingfiesta 00:16, 19 February 2011 (MST)
Well, this article does explain the difference between the stages as seen by western fans and the "official" stages. I guess whoever originally created the myu articles felt that dividing them into the four stages made more sense, and I don't disagree, honestly. Kerochan no Miko 06:47, 19 February 2011 (MST)
You disagree with changing them. Or disagree with the Western Stages. I personally think it should be changed to the official Myu stages... It makes more sense. The Second Stage Final is the Second Stage Final as opposed to being in the middle of the made-up Fourth... Cartwheelingfiesta 17:21, 19 February 2011 (MST)
I don't see why a perfectly logical system that has worked just fine for four and a half years suddenly needs to be changed just because it requires a trivia note in the article for one musical in order to explain said musical's subtitle. Kerochan no Miko 17:26, 19 February 2011 (MST)
Because theres an official alternative. Or another line to the template could be added...
Official Stage:
Western Fan Stage:
Eien Densetsu would need one too. It just seems silly to me. I mean you use the "official" translated titles for episodes despite some of them being quite odd.
o.O Cartwheelingfiesta 17:43, 19 February 2011 (MST)
I don't see what the two have in common. And I don't think you realize how much work it would involve to change a template that's already been in use.
Basically what I'm saying here is that I don't see how it's a problem now when it never has been before. It works, so why fix what isn't broken? Kerochan no Miko 23:49, 19 February 2011 (MST)
Because it makes more sense to use official information where possible. As you've said yourself. Instead of changing the template. Why not just edit the articles to say the official stage number. Just because no one complained before now doesn't mean its fine. It would take less than 5 minutes. It seems weird for the situation to be : 'The Second Stage Final or the First Stage Final - but this wikia says because its the Fourth Stage because Marina Kuroki is in this musical as decided by people who are not connected to the actual production of the musical. Cartwheelingfiesta 00:20, 20 February 2011 (MST)
its only in use on 29 pages.
If your only argument is that it "looks weird" on one article, then no, I don't see any reason to change it.
It would take well over "five minutes" and I honestly don't see a point to it anyway. Kerochan no Miko 01:00, 20 February 2011 (MST)
Then how about a compromise.
For example, Mugen Gakuen = Stage: 2 (Official) 4 (Fan Interpretation)
Only musicals after Kaguya Shima would have to change? 19:57, 20 February 2011 (MST)
That looks a whole lot weirder than just having the words "Second Stage Final" at the end of one title. Kerochan no Miko 20:16, 20 February 2011 (MST)
Well then why not change the information to the official in the template and put the trivia notes where your westernfaninterpretation begins and ends. That way the official as decided by the producers of the musical is with the other official information and youre happy. As i said only those after Kaguya Shima would change. And thats only three trivia notes against two so no big deal o.o . After all. this is an encyclopedia, its always best to use official information where possible. Its, like as i said before, using the 'officially' translated anime titles even though there are much better translations. Cartwheelingfiesta 22:00, 20 February 2011 (MST)
Hey, you're the one who demanded that we change how things are done because you think it looks weird. Why am I not allowed to say the same thing?
On a slightly more serious note, it appears that this was discussed before on this very talk page and this whole discussion was completely unnecessary to begin with. Kerochan no Miko 01:33, 21 February 2011 (MST)

Photos[edit]

Because of musicals like SuperS Festival which is hideous quality. Gaiden Kaiteiban and the Henshin musicals which aren't recorded. Perhaps it would be a good idea to upload the posters as the images on each musical page at some point? Rather than a screenshot. Like we do for the anime movies? Cartwheelingfiesta 16:00, 26 March 2011 (MST)

I'll look into it. Kerochan no Miko 18:41, 26 March 2011 (MST)
Thankyouse ^^ I'm pretty sure there are unique posters for every musical. I was checking them out on Sailor Moon Channel :3 Cartwheelingfiesta 21:25, 26 March 2011 (MST)

Transformation[edit]

With the exception of Yume Senshi, they're never shown transforming on stage. You cannot assume she uses the Compact to transform at all. Anzamoon and Miyukimoon are separate continuities. Dark Kingdom Fukkatsu Hen is in the same continuity as Eien Densetsu and Yume Senshi. While Last Dracul and Death Vulcan are in the same continuity. Its not as clear in Fuminamoon or Marinamoon. Its not specifically shown that Kaguya Shima follows Shin Densetsu Kourin. Its possible as Chibiusa leaves at the end of Shin Densetsu and returns in Kaguya, and Chibiusa has definitely grown up between the two. Its not fair to call the musicals a single continuity, there are at least four. Cartwheelingfiesta 02:44, 27 July 2011 (MST)

Where does it say that all the musicals are a single continuity? Kerochan no Miko 12:06, 27 July 2011 (MST)
Before you said the musicals use "a continuity", you've fixed this already. Now that I think about it, Chibiusa's changes seems to place the Kaguya musicals post-stars. Cartwheelingfiesta 16:37, 27 July 2011 (MST)
"The musicals would often use a continuity that did not entirely mesh with those of other versions of canon" is talking about each individual musical, hence the clarification to make it more obvious. And I don't know why it matters when the Kaguya musicals take place? Kerochan no Miko 16:54, 27 July 2011 (MST)

Musical Titles, Again[edit]

When the articles for the musicals were created the titles were incredibly inconsistent - only two of the articles (now) start with "Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon" even though that's at the beginning of all of the musicals. I know that in the video game articles that was skipped in all of the titles for consistency, but we need to go one way or the other here. Either Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon Super Spring Festival and Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon SuperS Special Musical Show need to be changed to just "Sailor Moon Super Spring Festival" and "Sailor Moon SuperS Special Musical Show" to match the others, or all of the others need to have the full title included. I'm inclined to go with the former, personally. Kerochan no Miko 16:31, 26 February 2012 (MST)

Well obviously it would be simpler to go with the former, in fact I don't see why we bother with the "Sailor Moon" part to begin with. I mean all the musical start with "Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon" and we have an inconsistency there as well, because we have some titles like "Sailor Moon - Gaiden Dark Kingdom Fukkatsu Hen" and some titles like "Shin Densetsu Kourin" and not "Sailor Moon - Shin Densetsu Kourin". I think we should simply remove all the "Sailor Moon" parts because only the first 6 musicals have it and the rest don't, and like you said we need some consistency with those titles. --Sailorsimon 01:01, 27 February 2012 (MST)
..."obliviously"...?
I would argue that in some of the musicals it does matter, such as the ones that start with "Sailor Moon S" or "Sailor Moon SuperS" because that's not just the plain "Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon". Kerochan no Miko 07:19, 27 February 2012 (MST)
@Sailorsimon: "obviously" ; ) --210 09:44, 27 February 2012 (MST)
@210, was I talking to you? I don't think so. Still, assuming you had good intentions; thank you for the correction.
@Kerochan no Miko: Indeed, those with Sailor Moon SuperS and Sailor Moon S should stay that way, since they pretty much indicate which season the musical takes place in and that does make it relevant (or so I think). However, I'm not so sure about the first three since the musical clearly states that what happens takes place after the first season. Still, it would be simpler to just deal with those two musicals that have "Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon" and let the others as they are. --Sailorsimon 12:37, 27 February 2012 (MST)
That was rather rude, Sailorsimon. This is a wiki with open conversation that anyone can join and they aren't private to only two people. Not to mention that being ungracious to someone trying to help you out is entirely uncalled for.
I'm good with just fixing those two, personally. Kerochan no Miko 18:15, 27 February 2012 (MST)

Sailor Moon x Nogizaka46[edit]

Shouldn't we create a page for the collaboration with Nogizaka46? I'm guessing it will be a bit different from the other musicals, but it's still a sailor moon musical! XD What is it's title, though? All I see is "Musical Sailor Moon ~ Nogizaka46 ver." (or including the 'Pretty Guardian' bit?). What do you guys say? Arukas (talk) 15:59, 7 June 2018 (EDT)

That's exactly why I personally haven't created a page yet - I was waiting to see if there's going to be an actual title or not. Kerochan no Miko (talk) 16:56, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
Hey I was just wondering about the "nogimyu" again. I really think there is no name for it other than "Musical Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon ~ Nogizaka46 Ver." XD... So maybe we should just call it "Sailor Moon - Nogizaka46 Ver.", considering the page always leaves out the "Musical" and "Pretty Guardian" bit? or maybe we put "Nogizaka46 Ver." inside parentheses...? Arukas (talk) 17:51, 2 September 2018 (EDT)
For your reference, here's its official Japanese title, copied from the official Sailor Moon site:
乃木坂46版 ミュージカル「美少女戦士セーラームーン」
Direct translation in the same word order: Nogizaka46 Version Musical "Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon"
--210 (talk) 14:31, 3 September 2018 (EDT)