User talk:Kuroyanagi

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Hi, and welcome to WikiMoon.

It is a good idea to discuss any large-scale changes, such as your recent moving of the Prince Dimande article, before you make them. Likewise, your efforts to alter this spelling across the whole site may not be appreciated if they have not first been discussed and agreed upon. dooky 12:09, 24 September 2006 (MST)

The extradinarily esoteric spelling of the name, threw me for quite a loop. Especially because actual names of roles and songs that were written in roman letters were changed to fit this strange spelling which I figured could only be a typo. Maybe I'm used to contributing to places with higher standards for information quality. --Kuroyanagi 18:35, 24 September 2006 (MST)
Awesome logic. If people don't agree with my contributions, it must be because their information quality doesn't meet my high standards!--WikiSysop 18:48, 24 September 2006 (MST)
It does sound like that doesn't it. I retract it then. However, changing the spelling of a name as it appears on primary sources in order to blindly follow "consistency" is rather silly. --Kuroyanagi 19:06, 24 September 2006 (MST)
Interesting. You wander into a project which people have been working hard on for several months, and suddenly we're all wrong because you know everything. That's a very helpful and cooperative attitude that I'm sure will contribute positively toward the project. Kerochan no Miko 18:52, 24 September 2006 (MST)
I have never said such a thing. You are completely mis-representing my position. --Kuroyanagi 19:11, 24 September 2006 (MST)
No, you never came out and said exactly that. But your comments about "contributing to places with higher standards", telling us we're "silly" to expect consistency in the site, and summarily changing things just to please your own standards instead of following the rules and conventions of the site are very, very strongly implying that. If that's not what you mean, you may wish to re-think your attitude and how you phrase what you're saying. Kerochan no Miko 19:14, 24 September 2006 (MST)
I did not specifically fault "consistency", but "blindly following" it to the point of changing words as they are written multiple original sources is poor practice. (And I'm not talking about variations in transliteration which are often in need of a consistant spelling.) Consistency is very important, but it's hard to find across series with as many variant works as this one. Secondly, I've done nothing "summarily." The page in question says nothing about being policy or coming to a "consensus" before making changes. I haven't changed the spelling since being asked to stop and I've consistently cited sources on the reasons that it should be changed. (I've also retracted the "higher standards" statement.) --Kuroyanagi 19:37, 24 September 2006 (MST)
Oh, please. That page didn't say anything about it, no. However, the rules to which Dooky pointed you do. If you started just editing pages without bothering to look at site policy, that's kind of sad. And contrary to your assertion, you did just summarily move that page without bothering to find out why it was spelled the way it was - you just assumed we were wrong and you were right. If you're going to persist in that belief, I have nothing more to say to you. Kerochan no Miko 19:51, 24 September 2006 (MST)
I figured that it was a "template article" (it has little substance) created by someone and it hadn't gotten proper attention from anyone. No, I hadn't read the policy. I joined in May. That rule wasn't there when I started. I think we have different philosophies about the way in which online collaboration on wikis work. I saw what I thought was a series of mistakes and I corrected them. Does one need to research the history of a mistake before correcting it? If there's a problem with the change, talk about it afterward. It's what we're doing now. As you said: "You're entitled to your opinion just as I'm entitled to mine" --Kuroyanagi 20:18, 24 September 2006 (MST)
My point is that you didn't bother to find out if it was a mistake or not before "correcting" it. I'm going by the rules of this site; I don't know what you're using, apart from your own whims. Kerochan no Miko 21:13, 24 September 2006 (MST)
My problem with your point is that spelling is very very esoteric. Very few people use it. On a wiki where there is often incorrect information because anyone can edit it. Therefore it's not to far-fetched to assume that someone mistyped or mistranslated a name. --Kuroyanagi 21:32, 24 September 2006 (MST)
On that many pages? That's a flimsy excuse. Kerochan no Miko 21:45, 24 September 2006 (MST)
I don't think it is. I moved it before I checked the links. Then I fixed all of the myu-related articles. I didn't realize that the naming policy (though it doesn't say policy) was so Orwellian until I got the orange note. This is a large discussion about nothing, anyway as things on wikis are easily undone. I'm sure they'll be changed in due time. --Kuroyanagi 22:07, 24 September 2006 (MST)
Yes, this is a big discussion about nothing, because you still think you're right and we're stupid. Obviously there's no point in talking to you about it. Kerochan no Miko 22:19, 24 September 2006 (MST)
You're mis-representing me again. I called no one stupid. I don't view this as a matter of right or wrong. It is likely a very good thing to end this conversation now since it is starting to become uncivil. --Kuroyanagi 22:46, 24 September 2006 (MST)