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Initial Setup of WikiMoon Web[edit]

Let's discuss categories and setup.

First, we're not going to allow individual pages for general websites, rather the pages here will just be a list of links to the sites themselves. The only pages that get individual descriptive pages for them are those listed in Editor's Choice, or in a section that has to do with important sites to the fandom's history. (E.g. Starfox's Sailor Moon page.)

Second, we're going to want to set the categories up in a way where it complements what would be on the "Links" section of a page. So we'll be removing the list of links in the main namespace (e.g. no more "Links" at the bottom of the Sera Myu page), and instead referring people to visit "Sera Myu Links" here at WikiMoon Web. The top five or so links on a page could be what we'd normally put in the Links section of a main namespace page.

Thoughts as to what the list of categories (and perhaps subcategories) should be?

We also need to begin writing the rules for WMW.--WikiSysop 23:08, 12 January 2007 (MST)

Hmm. Categories. Editor's Choice, Multimedia (image galleries, music), Fandom (with subcategories for fanart, fanfic, amvs, fanlistings, character/seiyuu shrines &c), Information (with subcategories for anime, manga, musicals, pgsm). And maybe a category for important sites that once existed and now don't. Kerochan no Miko 23:16, 12 January 2007 (MST)
Just a reminder that we've had a past discussion about it for ref. --210 02:23, 13 January 2007 (MST)

So... what should be done with this project? I'd love to help, I just have no idea where to start working.
If we're still discussing the categories, I think the ones KnM suggested sound good enough. Elanorea 05:29, 15 April 2007 (MST)

I created a page layout based on the front page of the main site (just so there's something other than "test"), with the discussed categories listed - I was thinking that in each box we could include a description of the category and a link to the main subpage for that category, and maybe the top five popular links (is there a script that could automatically update that...?) but this might be unnecessarily complicated. Maybe we should just have a table of links instead and let the subpages describe the categories? Ideas? Kerochan no Miko 06:39, 15 April 2007 (MST)

This layout is good. I think we should start it simple & make it more complicated progressively should the need arise in due course. Hence, I lean on just having a table of links at this stage. --210 07:09, 15 April 2007 (MST)

I simplified the layout a little, and I think I'm going to start on the category pages now. Once those are figured out, and we get some rules established for the project, I think we should be ready to start. I'm currently aiming at launching this section on the one-year anniversary of WikiMoon (May 13). Also, if anyone can figure out why the top bar renders just fine in Firefox and not in IE, suggestions are welcome. :P Kerochan no Miko 06:53, 16 April 2007 (MST)

I dunno. The only thing I'll point out is that on the main page, the left side has those items so it's not supposed to be centered. That might have something to do with it.--WikiSysop 12:10, 16 April 2007 (MST)
I can get it to work in either Firefox or IE, but not both. It's mildly aggravating. Kerochan no Miko 12:26, 16 April 2007 (MST)
My purpose in life is to make your life more difficult.--WikiSysop 14:05, 16 April 2007 (MST)
I always suspected that. Kerochan no Miko 17:01, 16 April 2007 (MST)
I originally thought it was just me because of my hardware peculiarities (I'm kinda used to that lol) & hence I didn't raise this problem, but now I note that I'm fine w/ the WM main page, so there must be sthg different btn the codes of the 2 that makes the WM main page look fine but not the WMW one. I can't pinpoint which exact code difference(s) causes it, tho. --210 06:40, 17 April 2007 (MST)
I'm now on Firefox, the welcoming wordings are at the middle of the bar (they're at the left of it in IE). However, the bar still extends beyond the page's right border (as in IE). So at least to me, the overly extended bar appears in both browsers. --210 06:23, 6 May 2007 (MST)
Hmm. The width of the bar was set to an absolute value rather than a percentage one. If you have a very small screen resolution, that could cause problems. As it is, the bar looks kind of big and empty, but I don't know what could be added to it. dooky 07:18, 6 May 2007 (MST)
The title bar has been the least of my priorities WRT this project. Mr. Sysop claims to have some ideas about what he wants the front page to look like, so I'm waiting to hear from him about it. Kerochan no Miko 12:48, 6 May 2007 (MST)
So as I've suspected, it's my own system environment (I'm using a tiny tablet) that causes this curious minor problem. Thx for the info. --210 17:46, 6 May 2007 (MST)
The bar width problem is fixed now in both browsers! Thx Dooky. ^^ And I guess that the "text not at the middle" problem in IE would cease to exist once more stuff is put into the bar. --210 18:01, 6 May 2007 (MST)

Rules[edit]

I'm somewhat iffy on having links to sites with downloads of the manga and anime episodes; IMHO, it's better to encourage people to support the show than to encourage them to potentially violate copyright and download things, and such links are readily available elsewhere if someone really wants them. Opinions? Kerochan no Miko 02:28, 13 May 2007 (MST)

Agreed in principle, but I suspect there might be grey areas/exceptional cases (can't cite examples ATM). So I suggest not to be so absolute in the wordings of the rule (maybe a provision for the Editor's discretion in such cases). --210 06:27, 13 May 2007 (MST)

Setup[edit]

Hrm. Having the separate namespace makes for some awkwardness in linking articles, unless there's an easier way that I'm not seeing? Kerochan no Miko 23:35, 4 May 2007 (MST)

I don't know much about the Wiki system, just think that puting it like "WikiMoonWeb: Editor's Choice" might be better, & the "WikiMoonWeb:" could be discarded w/i the article contents. --210 02:28, 5 May 2007 (MST)
Uh...what? Kerochan no Miko 02:47, 5 May 2007 (MST)
I meant replacing the "/" by ": ", & that the word "WikiMoonWeb" doesn't need to be repeated again below the page heading. --210 03:25, 5 May 2007 (MST)
The slash is there to denote the page being a subpage of the WMW webspace. Kerochan no Miko 03:32, 5 May 2007 (MST)
I just thought it looks better to use the colon, but since the slash is the syntax for denoting a subpage, so be it. --210 03:49, 5 May 2007 (MST)
Isn't WikiMoonWeb a namespace? For namespaces, a colon is needed, not a slash; otherwise, MediaWiki will treat the subpages as part of the main namespace, not the WikiMoonWeb namespace. - Sikon 10:30, 5 May 2007 (MST)
Ahah. See, this is why I was asking. Kerochan no Miko 12:49, 5 May 2007 (MST)
As I've said, "I don't know much about the Wiki system," my suggestion of using the colon instead of the slash actually wasn't based on system syntactic requirement. But now that the syntax also requires the colon, it's good either way. Thx Sikon. ^^ --210 19:01, 5 May 2007 (MST)

Bottom Navigation[edit]

I've noticed that once you are inside a section of WikimoonWeb it's hard to get around without hitting back a lot. Are there plans for a bottom navigation box?--Sakky 05:23, 28 June 2007 (MST)

Ditto, but I guess WMW is still work-in-progress so I didn't ask for it at this stage, tho I think a template for that should be added in due course. --210 05:39, 28 June 2007 (MST)
Hadn't thought about it, but that's a good idea. Kerochan no Miko 12:59, 28 June 2007 (MST)