Talk:Image song

Do "Luna!" and "Ai no Energy wo Ubae" count as image songs? They're about the character &c, but aren't sung by their seiyuu, though one might argue that "Initial U" falls under the same argument. Kerochan no Miko 22:53, 15 January 2007 (MST)

Yeah, put them under image songs. I disagree that the PGSM songs are unique or even that the anime image songs don't appear in the show often. Many of them were used at least once, sometimes in unique ways. For example, Ami's "Ashita wa mata jitensha" (I think that song) got played on the radio in the SuperS episode where they go to the beach. I can name a number of the songs in that list which got played at least once in the show.--WikiSysop 00:20, 16 January 2007 (MST)

Okay, I'll amend it. Kerochan no Miko 12:03, 16 January 2007 (MST)

If our working definition of image songs is songs "intended to give a better idea of the personality or feelings of a particular character," the Sera Myu section makes me distinctly uncomfortable. That's the function of many, if not most, of the songs in the various musicals, and under that definition I feel that we would have to expand the list many, many times over... especially if we're opening it to villains such as Black Lady and Sailor Galaxia, as the list implies. This isn't to say that I don't think there are songs that could justly be called "image songs" in the musicals - the songs that appear on the "Memorial Album of the Musical - Eternal Edition" 1 and 2 could mostly be called such, as could songs that contain musical motifs later associated with a character or characters, such as "Stay Alone," "To a Brand-New World," and "Chasin' After You." But at the moment, the musical Image Songs section seems lack a guiding logic.--Dallbun 18:42, 31 March 2007 (MST)

Again, I must repeat: I am not a myu expert. I believe I added "The Last Change," "Drive Me The Mercury," "Honoo no Messenger," "Zigzag Slash," and "Traditional the Grace ~Ai no Arashi~" because I saw them described several times on websites as the "theme songs" for the Senshi in the musicals. But if you have changes you think should be made, feel free to bring them up rather than just criticizing the basic layout of the article. Kerochan no Miko 18:46, 31 March 2007 (MST)

Gotcha. Sorry, Kerochan no Miko, I don't mean to attack your Myu knowledge specifically - I just keep feeling like I need to check in with other people before changing things majorly, since I'm only dabbling on the site. I *personally* would suggest cutting "Tuxedo Royale," "Waltz ni Koi wo Nosete," "Onna no Ronsou," and "Kono Kodou Kara Yoru wa Umarenai," and villain songs (because seriously, we don't want to open that box of worms), possibly adding some more such as "Broken MOEBIUS" and "Forbidden Hades," "Koi no Senshi ja Irarenai," and "Chasin' After You", and definitely adding a comment that this is a sample of *major* character-associated songs from the musicals, rather than a complete list. Is it okay to make such a major renovation based on my personal opinions of what should or should not constitute an image song from the musicals, or should there be some kind of sysop decision about what qualifies? --Dallbun 18:57, 31 March 2007 (MST)

I have no arguments against them, personally. I think that we need some kind of boundaries on the myu section, so if you think those work, go for it. I was a little iffy on a couple of the ones we have there anyway. Kerochan no Miko 19:01, 31 March 2007 (MST)

Would the song "Watashi-tachi ni Naritakute" count as an image song for Chibiusa/Sailor Chibi Moon or a combination of Helios/Chibiusa? Griffie 21:23, 25 January 2009 (MST)

Mmm. It might be considered a Chibiusa image song, but...I'm a little iffy on classifying it as such, since it was an ending song. Kerochan no Miko 00:29, 26 January 2009 (MST)

I removed "Solar Miracle, Make Up" as an image song because it doesn't, as the article says, "give a better idea of the personality or feelings of a particular character" - it's a preparation-for-battle song, not a "this is who we are" kind of song, so it doesn't really seem to fit the definition of an image song. Kerochan no Miko 19:51, 28 January 2009 (MST)

Can someone please put up English lyrics for the image songs? (This unsigned comment was left by Royal1918, July 22, 2010)

Someone has to translate them first. If you know Japanese, feel free to do so. Kerochan no Miko 12:50, 22 July 2010 (MST)

Myu Songs

As previously discussed (and since I know myu songs a lot better now than I did four years ago) I think a lot of the songs listed in the Sera Myu section honestly need to be cut simply because they don't really fit the "traditional" definition of image songs as used for anime songs. By the logic currently being used in that section most of the musical songs in general could fit in there, so... unless a song is particularly notable as a character-associated song (such as Honoo no Messenger or Stay Alone or the like) then I don't think it needs to be there. And yes, this means that "Amazon Kara Circus Dan ga Yatte Kita" shouldn't be in there because, while it has lines that "introduce" the Trio, the majority of the song is devoted to moving the story along and therefore isn't really all about them. Kerochan no Miko 09:52, 12 February 2011 (MST)

* Dream Yume wa Ookiku should not have been deleted, it is played across multiple musicals and is closely linked to their characters. Particularly Ami, besides it doesn't advance the plot in most of musicals it appears in except Ai no Senshi and the first Dracul. Without Ami it discusses the other senshi's dreams which is key to the Sailor Moon series as a whole. You seem to have listed only songs which they say their names after all. Amazon Kara Circus Dan ga Yatte introduces the Trio yes, but why does that make it not an image song. Are you sure you haven't mixed it up with Amazon Trio no Yume Sagashi? Koi no Senshi Ja Irarenai however, just because they say HADES IMPACT - SAILOR PLUTO. Doesn't really mean anything to either Sailor Pluto or Setsuna's image, does it? 13:44, 12 February 2011 (MST)~~

Did you read the discussion up above on this talk page? The point is that 1) this is supposed to be a representative list, not listing every single song that could be potentially considered an "image song" and 2) just because it has a line about how a character is feeling doesn't make it an "image song." Kerochan no Miko 14:52, 12 February 2011 (MST)

Okay, I'm sorry but I disagree. Dream Yume wa Ookiku has a long opening that features Ami's conflicted beliefs. This adds to her overall image, it even appears in musicals where it does not advance the plot at all. Later in the song it discusses the dreams of the other Inner Senshi. I also think that Amazon Kara Circus is barely about the Circus. As i said before they're talking about themselves and how although they think they're amazing they can't last forever. Which is adding to their image. 20:11, 12 February 2011 (MST)

And, heh, sorry but thinking about it now. How is Traditional the Grace an image song then? She only ever says "Tenshi no yuuwaku". Don't you agree? ^.^ Cartwheelingfiesta 20:15, 12 February 2011 (MST)