Talk:Phantom Ace

I don't know if this should be at Kaitou Ace, or Saijyo Ace. I put it at Ace for the time being because I'm unsure but I'm not quite happy with that either. I'm leaning toward Kaitou Ace because it's the most well known. What does everyone else think? GracieLizzie 16:27, 8 June 2006 (MST)

I would say... Put it at Kaitou Ace, and have a redirect from the other. This is consistent with the Sailor Senshi articles which are all currently under their Senshi naes as opposed to civilian names. Of course, I want to have separate civilan articles for them at some point, and there's no reason why we couldn't eventually do that for this chap too (assuming there's enough to write about). Dooky 16:33, 8 June 2006 (MST)

Thing is, he's also listed at Danburite and Adonis. Another article for Saijyo Ace might be stretching it because there is little you can really say about Saijyo separately from Kaitou Ace. GracieLizzie 16:54, 8 June 2006 (MST)

I think having three articles about someone who is essentially the same guy is a bit redundant. I mean, we don't have seperate articles for Sailor Moon's different forms, do we? I propose the three articles be merged 60.228.153.81

We're going to though, and we have separate articles for Papillon and Katarina and other people transformed into youma/with evil aliases. The reason I did this is because he's fallen into several diffrent catagories - Moon Kingdom Affiliate, Dark Agency Affiliate, etc in each diffrent form. GracieLizzie 02:11, 9 June 2006 (MST)

I agree. Kaitou is perhaps an extreme example of multiple identities, but we want this resource to be as definitive as possible, so there's no problem with having a separate article for each identity, provided they aren't just repeating all of the same information. Since I haven't read Sailor V, though, a question... Is Kaitou consciously misleading Minako? I mean, is he actually evil all along? If that's the case then I'd say his affiliation is still Dark Agency rather than Civilian/Moon Kingdom. It would be different for, say Rei's Grandfather and Jiji because they're distinct beings who just share a body, but if the other identity is just an alias, then I'd class them both as the same affiliation (i.e. I'd almost certainly class Usagi as Moon Kingdom). This isn't set in stone though, and there's probably some interesting debates to be had on how to determine affiliations for certain characters. Dooky 02:40, 9 June 2006 (MST)

Well he was conciously misleading her, I'll change it because I was under the impression that we were going to put "civilian" on the eventual Usagi, Minako etc articles. I'm keeping Adonis "Moon Kingdom" though as he was in his past life which is what the Adonis article mainly refers to. GracieLizzie 03:26, 9 June 2006 (MST)

Propose that the article be moved to Phantom Ace to match the official English release. Kerochan no Miko 05:49, 24 November 2011 (MST)