Talk:Teletia S transformations

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I have these added up to the last episode for which a summary has been written - I planned to keep adding as I go. Kerochan no Miko 19:00, 30 September 2006 (MST)

Police Officer

Makoto is, of course, female, & I also didn't mean that she actually changed her physical gender in the transformation. I only meant that she transformed her costume, hence her look, into a policeman's. --210 00:53, 2 October 2006 (MST)

No, she changed her costume to that of a policewoman. As in, a female police officer. It's correct the way it is. Kerochan no Miko 09:01, 2 October 2006 (MST)
I dunno about that.. they weren't shown actually taking the photos, but the only officers shown in that scene are male, and she wears the same uniform that they do (with trousers), and has her ponytail tucked in her hat. I can see why it could be considered a policeman's uniform - I certainly always got the impression that she disguised herself as a man. Maybe it should be gender neutral? Lachesis 15:45, 2 October 2006 (MST)
It doesn't matter whether her uniform involved a skirt or pants, she's a female wearing a police uniform, and IMHO that makes her a policewoman. Kerochan no Miko 16:21, 2 October 2006 (MST)
I understand that's what you meant. But while I do see the validity of that argument, I also don't think it's more valid than saying she's a woman disguised as a (police)man (like when Usagi disguises herself as a groom in the manga), which is why I suggested a gender neutral term, like "police officer". Lachesis 16:33, 2 October 2006 (MST)
And I don't have an issue with you changing it to that. Kerochan no Miko 16:44, 2 October 2006 (MST)
excellent, excellent. Somebody beat me to it, though ^^ Lachesis 16:49, 2 October 2006 (MST)

^ It's definitely a policeman's uniform, & I'm not just considering her pants (woman officers do wear pants in certain circumstances, won't elaborate here). If my virtual keyboard didn't overlap the edit note input slot, I'd have written "stop changing the correct word back into the incorrect one". lol Anyway, Lachesis has found the middle ground we both accept, & I thank her for that. --210 17:36, 2 October 2006 (MST)

And I think it's definitely a policewoman uniform. As Lachesis says above, your opinion is no more valid than mine. Kerochan no Miko 19:53, 2 October 2006 (MST)
Or yours no more valid than mine. lol I seldom encountered police officers in the Tokyo streets, despite I walked pass a police box every day (& it always seemed to be empty), still rarer were policewomen. But idol events often involved the so-called "one-day station chief", in which an idol had to put on a full policewoman's uniform (not a self-made cosplay one). That's why I can definitely say that Makoto's uniform was a male one. Having said this, I think at this point there is no need to argue any more about the gender as (1) Lachesis has already eliminated the gender specification in that part of the article, & (2) gender specification is actually unimportant for that part. --210 21:00, 2 October 2006 (MST)
Oh, so you think Makoto couldn't've been a policewoman because women aren't police officers. That's a highly interesting point of view, and several of the officers I work with would disagree. Kerochan no Miko 21:15, 2 October 2006 (MST)
I didn't say nor imply nor mean that. Pls don't put words on my mouth & (wrongly) infer/speculate any underlying meanings. I don't know about the Japanese police, but right here there're many brilliant, respected & very senior female police officers (in support & operations alike). Now that this discussion has become so off-topic I'm stopping here. --210 22:33, 2 October 2006 (MST)
Incidentally, I was going to put police officer instead of policewoman in the Compact transformations article. The only reason I went with policewoman in the end was because Minako has at least on two (possibly three but the Shogun is debatable) used her compact to disguise herself as male. So I thought I'd better clarify that it was a policewoman or the reader may think she turned herself male on that occasion too, also when Minako calls out her transformation according to Alex Glover's translation she says "Change me into a policewoman."[1] not police officer but I don't know if that was a choice on his part or is what was in the original text, I'd check my French Sailor V books but unfortunately I don't have access to them at the moment.

Act 32

I would disagree that she was "disguised" as anything - she just used the phone to change her clothes. Kerochan no Miko 07:06, 28 January 2007 (MST)

Well... you're right! lol --210 23:32, 28 January 2007 (MST)
Deleted that part. BTW, I guess this phone function also helps her reduce her lateness for school. --210 23:41, 28 January 2007 (MST)
I just want to know if they could physically remove the outfits they change into and keep them for later...if so, it would save a lot of money on clothes shopping. Kerochan no Miko 00:00, 29 January 2007 (MST)
Yeah, that would be a similar function as the replicators in Star Trek: The Next Generation, but it could also just be a halodeck (also in ST: TNG) effect of optical halograms plus energy fields. In the latter case, they couldn't save their bucks if they wanted the real thing instead of an illusion. --210 00:29, 29 January 2007 (MST)