Talk:Otaku Senshi

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I think this comment needs to be at the top of the talk page just so everyone sees it: this article is not for promoting your own personal fanfic Senshi. It is for discussing the existence of Otaku Senshi, general trends in their creation, the common archetypes thereof, etc. Just so everyone is aware, I'm not removing their personal commentary on "Sailor Comet" or "Sailor Aether" for fun or to be vindictive, but in an effort to keep the article both neutral and as academic as possible. Kerochan no Miko 17:37, 23 March 2007 (MST)

Sei fuku vs. Sailor fuku[edit]

If I am correct in my understanding, the sailor fuku is a type of sei fuku. The sentence, "In regards to the school uniform reference, opponents to the ‘collar rule’ may also cite that not all school uniforms, or sei fuku, include the collar and have vests or jackets instead" refers to all sei fuku, making the point that not all school uniforms are sailor fuku.--Sakky 06:02, 18 September 2006 (MST)

It was my understanding that "seifuku" is an abbreviated way of saying "sailor fuku", and "sailor fuku" can refer to either the Senshi uniforms or school uniforms. Kerochan no Miko 11:21, 18 September 2006 (MST)
Hmmm, the regular Wikipedia page has a redirect for seifuku to Sailor fuku. The Japanese school uniform pages says that seifuku is the general word for uniform while sailor fuku is the girls school uniform specifically. So, I think the sailor outfit is a type of uniform, but Sailor fuku can also make sense in the article since we aren't talking about guys anyway.--Sakky 14:31, 18 September 2006 (MST)
That's an awfully nitpicky definition there, IMHO. Kerochan no Miko 15:23, 18 September 2006 (MST)
Nitpicky but accurate. Like I said, either seems to makes sense because with sailor senshi, we are talking about the girl's outfits specifically. Still, the sentence is talking about uniforms in general so the more general 'seifuku' is my preference. It doesn't really matter that much.--Sakky 21:09, 18 September 2006 (MST)
Yeah the word seifuku (制服) is made up of the kanji for organisation/establishment (and other things) and fuku, which as we all know means clothes. So seifuku means uniform. GracieLizzie 14:37, 18 September 2006 (MST)
Thanks GracieLizzie. I can't read kanji so it's helpful to have someone to check with. ^_^--Sakky 21:09, 18 September 2006 (MST)
I can't read Kanji either... but my computer can ^_^ (I love Rikaichan). GracieLizzie 02:17, 19 September 2006 (MST)

^ I'm late to this discussion. But yeah, (1) seifuku = uniform (all kinds); (2) sailor fuku = sailor style costume (all kinds; but often referring to sailor style school uniform in reality, & also referring to Senshi costume in Sailor Moon). 210 05:31, 19 September 2006 (MST)

Which do you feel makes more sense in the context of the sentence 210?--Sakky 05:33, 19 September 2006 (MST)
My point is: sailor style is one of the various school uniform styles, & school uniform is one of the various kinds of uniform. 210 05:45, 19 September 2006 (MST)

Common Character Archetypes & Debates[edit]

Personally I think having articles of their own for Sailor Earth, Sailor Sun, and Sailor Nemisis is a bit over-the-top at the moment. I suggest we merge them into one "Common Otaku Senshi" article. There we could also add Zodiac senshi which seems to be another fairly common choice of Otaku senshi. GracieLizzie 01:18, 16 May 2006 (MST)

We could just merge them into this article and have the old entries redirect here. I can do that rather easily, if noone complains. Kyaa the Catlord 01:23, 16 May 2006 (MST)
Yeah that's a good idea. GracieLizzie 01:26, 16 May 2006 (MST)

Just out of curiousity, why is star seed linked here? It's not a fan canon term. - User:Dimentia

I linked it because star seeds have a big part when discussing otaku senshi, especially when someone makes a Sailor Earth. It's not fan canon but it's certainly a part of the discussion. --Elfir 13:50, 16 May 2006 (MST)

I performed the merge :) GracieLizzie 08:40, 26 May 2006 (MST)

Nice--WikiSysop 09:22, 26 May 2006 (MST)

I added information about basic creation of Otaku Senshi. I don't know if it's what you guys are looking for on this page, but if not you can just remove it. I am a little concerned because I don't really have any sources to cite since this is just my knowledge of the community which I've been involved in. I would be happy to help write a non-bais section on the various controversies and opinions divide the otaku senshi community and I believe I would be able to have some sources for that. I have my points of view on these subjects such as the "sailor collar" issue, the question of male otaku senshi, and the "Mary-Sue" debate, but I am well versed in many points of view on these subject and I feel that I can represent them all equally. --Sakura 12:55, 27 May 2006 (EST)

This looks pretty good for now... I'm not sure what you could have as a sourcem but you could perhaps link to Suburban Senshi or some other large-scale fan-senshi RPG. Most of the examples here (satellite senshi, kuiper belt senshi) are ones I've seen before. But am I the only person to have an Animamate fan-senshi, I wonder? ^_^ Dooky 10:08, 27 May 2006 (MST)
Nope, you aren't. I know a Sailor Mermaid based on the manga Aluminum Siren and a Sailor Chuu as well. ^_^ I feel that if we get into those controversial topics they should be listed on this page but have their own page for elaboration as some of them can get quite lengthy. I know of a few other people on the ToT Boards that would be able to help with input on various sides of these debates.--Sakura 13:10, 27 May 2006 (EST)

One sentence in this article confuses me: The political turmoil of Nemesis ensures Sailor Nemesis, should she exist, will be unable to awaken her powers for many centuries to come. What does the political climate of Nemesis have to do with the senshi thereof? Where did this come from? Kerochan no Miko 23:45, 4 June 2006 (MST)

I guess the reaosning is that the inhabitants of Nemesis hate the Sailor Senshi and would somehow prevent one from awakening. That's the best I could come up with, but it still has logical holes big enough for Tuxedo Mask to drive a bus through. Firstly, all the other Senshi were born on Earth, not their respective planets. Secondly, Nemesis won't even be inhabited for hundreds of years, so a Senshi awakening in the present wouldn't be affected by any political situation.
This article really needs to be careful not to stray into wild speculation about canon. We need to make sure that it describes the phenomenon of fan-senshi without getting stuck in their universe. Dooky 00:16, 5 June 2006 (MST)
That's what I was thinking. If nobody can come up with a good reason for it to stay, I'm taking that sentence out. Kerochan no Miko 00:57, 5 June 2006 (MST)
I've taken it out too because the whole speculative nature of the Sailor Nemisis entry didn't sit well with me either. I've also taken out the bit about Naru from that section because it seemed odd to mention her there when she gets made into senshi of other planets just as often. It may be a good idea to mention Naru somewhere on this page. GracieLizzie 01:57, 5 June 2006 (MST)
Naru shows up so often as an otaku senshi that maybe she deserves her own subsection. :P Kerochan no Miko 02:38, 5 June 2006 (MST)
Bah, every live-action fan knows that Naru-chan is just a former Sailor Mercury. ^o^ --Rosen 03:18, 8 August 2006 (MST)
Actually Rosen, I was going to ask you if we could post one or two of your otaku-senshi images here? I love the one with Sailor Gallifrey & co on ^_^ I've actually known about it for ages when I ran across your site looking for Sailor Moon fanart one day. GracieLizzie 04:32, 8 August 2006 (MST)
And I was just getting ideas for cartoons about Kawabe-san's double identities... You mean this one, and there was a Sailor Naru pic, and the one with Sailor Hale-Bopp. ...but aren't they kind of fake otaku senshi in this context? There are no fics about them or anything. --Rosen 06:41, 8 August 2006 (MST)
Personally I consider fanart-only senshi Otaku senshi too, after all in this context "Otaku" means fan and fanart senshi are still fan created even if they have no fics. GracieLizzie 14:08, 8 August 2006 (MST)
Agreed. dooky 15:13, 8 August 2006 (MST)

I removed the mention of the supposedly popular Sailor Sun. I don't think it's necessary, and I've never heard of the character or the 'fic. Kerochan no Miko 17:31, 30 July 2006 (MST)

I started working on an article about controversies in otaku senshi creation. When I've got the basics down should I make a new page for it or put it on this page? --Sakky 14:12, 6 September 2006 (MST)

What "controversies" are you referring to? Kerochan no Miko 14:24, 6 September 2006 (MST)
Well, I am not a massive participant in the otaku senshi fandom - though I do have some and enjoy otaku senshi fanart a lot - I do know of one or two "controversies" one being male Sailors, the another being the sailor collar issue (can you call senshi w/o collars sailor senshi?), and finally the Sailor Earth - issue, Mamoru has the starseed/Sailor Crystal for Earth so in-canon there couldn't be a Sailor Earth unless a. gave his Crystal away or b. was somehow turned into a girl ^_^ (I so have to write that one day). --GracieLizzie 14:35, 6 September 2006 (MST)
We already have a section on Sailor Earth, so a sentence about Mamoru having the Crystal could be added; as for the rest, I really don't see a need for an entire new article, as it could be dealt with in a paragraph or two. Kerochan no Miko 15:24, 6 September 2006 (MST)
What I wrote is about 800 words on the Sailor Collar issue and the Male senshi issue. I realize the Earth stuff is already covered in this section but I agree that the info about Mamoru carrying the crsytal should be put in. Is isn't really a 'belief' that Mamoru holds the Earth Crystal in canon; he just does. --Sakky 06:11, 7 September 2006 (MST)
...800 words on collars? Oh...kay... Kerochan no Miko 09:21, 7 September 2006 (MST)
I tried to keep it concise. ^^; I know it can, and will, probably be edited but I explained all the things that go into why people think each way, etc. and tried to make it as unbias and all-encompassing as I could. I put it right in on this page. For the people that want to know what it's all about, the info should be helpful.  :D I feel the information on the particular common characters could be concisely stated in a bulleted list in the Common character archetypes section. Comments? --Sakky 12:49, 7 September 2006 (MST)
It gets confusing when you edit comments you already made, first of all. Second, it seems to me that the "sailor collar" section could be significantly condensed, but I don't really care enough to rewrite it. And third, I don't understand what you mean about the bulleted list. Kerochan no Miko 11:44, 10 September 2006 (MST)
No one had replied so I figured no one had read the post as of yet. My apologies if it was confusing to have altered it. In the future, I will make additions to statements I have already posted and note them as such.
In regard to length, I made the information as condensed as I could while still explaining it so that someone not involved with otaku senshi creation could understand the various points of view. If you find the time to pair it down some feel free, as long as it still makes sense.
By the bulleted list I mean to merge the Common Character Archetypes section with the Common and Popular Otaku Senshi. The common characters seem to fall under the common archetypes of otaku senshi creation, therefore under the information about common archetypes there could be some sort of list with the commonly seen characters instead of having them have their own section below. I was thinking something like on of the following for formatting but you might have a better idea if you know a little more about wiki formatting:
  • Sailor Earth - A much used fanfiction device for creating a new Sailor Senshi. Fans who use this character discard the canon fact that Mamoru carries the Star Seed of Earth, and instead have this new senshi carry it or ignore the existence of the Earth Sailor Crystal altogether. Very often Sailor Earth is a "long lost sister" of Mamoru, and Terra is a fairly common given name for a Sailor Earth based on the dub continuity.
  • Sailor Sun - Similar to Sailor Earth, Sailor Sun is a common fan-made senshi. She usually has fire or light attacks. Common variations include Sailor Sol and Sailor Solar.
  • Sailor Nemesis - The planet Nemesis, also known as the Dark Moon, is secretive about its culture and history, so no Sailor Nemesis has ever been confirmed to exist. There are many fanfiction theories regarding this rumored Star Seed.
etc. Or:
Sailor Earth 
A much used fanfiction device for creating a new Sailor Senshi. Fans who use this character discard the canon fact that Mamoru carries the Star Seed of Earth, and instead have this new senshi carry it or ignore the existence of the Earth Sailor Crystal altogether. Very often Sailor Earth is a "long lost sister" of Mamoru, and Terra is a fairly common given name for a Sailor Earth based on the dub continuity.
Sailor Sun 
Similar to Sailor Earth, Sailor Sun is a common fan-made senshi. She usually has fire or light attacks. Common variations include Sailor Sol and Sailor Solar.
Sailor Nemesis 
The planet Nemesis, also known as the Dark Moon, is secretive about its culture and history, so no Sailor Nemesis has ever been confirmed to exist. There are many fanfiction theories regarding this rumored Star Seed.
etc. If you prefer one over the other just let me know and I will be happy to make the edit.--Sakky 17:03, 10 September 2006 (MST)
I merged the two redundant sections. Kerochan no Miko 17:29, 10 September 2006 (MST)
Great.  :D Let me know if you need any more help with Otaku Senshi stuff and if I come up with anything, I will post! --Sakky 17:33, 10 September 2006 (MST)
On the bulleted list thing, personally I prefer it the way it is now as you can jump to whatever section you want this way and you can't with a bulleted list. GracieLizzie 04:38, 19 September 2006 (MST)

The Pic[edit]

Conehead? lol (Anyone remember that movie? lol) 210 05:48, 19 September 2006 (MST)

Yes.  :P I was in 3rd grade when it came out. She WOULD be an awkward senshi. XD --Sakky 11:38, 27 September 2006 (MST)

External Links[edit]

There might be a little shameless self promotion in this, but the articles section of my site has 13 articles to help people with otaku senshi creation, included a detailed explaination of how to develop character profiles. I am always working to expand this section as well. It might be a good resource if people are interested in making these characters. I don't know what the policy is for requirements of external links or linking to your own site (which I assume might be frowned apon) so let me know what you think. Here is an anchored link directly to the articles: http://www.sailorastera.com/fandom_articles.php#cc --Sakky 11:38, 27 September 2006 (MST)

I've added a link there to here. 210 17:48, 27 September 2006 (MST)
Personally, I don't see a need to link to that page - this article is here to tell people about Otaku Senshi and what they are &c, if they feel a need to find out how to make one of their own there's always Google. Kerochan no Miko 18:21, 27 September 2006 (MST)
I created a site for the sole purpose of informing people about otaku senshi and helping them with character development. It is located at http://www.sailorastera.com/otaku/ and might be more useful than the pervious subsection of my site that I posted here.
Thanks for finding a home for it 210, though it seems the link you added sends the user back to this talk page?
Kerochan no Miko, because development is discussed on the Otaku Senshi page, I felt such a resource could be helpful to readers that wanted to learn more about the process. It's true that they could just use Google to find such resources, but it also seems logical to simply direct them to the helpful material. When I search 'otaku senshi creation' or 'how to make an otaku senshi' in Google, the top hit is my site. I'm not trying to be presumptuous, I just don't know of any other places that offer step-by-step help for people interested in this hobby.--Sakky 17:59, 1 October 2006 (MST)
Yes, but the article is about Otaku Senshi as a concept, it's not a how-to guide. I'm sure your site is great and all, but I don't think it's relevant. Kerochan no Miko 18:03, 1 October 2006 (MST)
I see it as relevant because otaku senshi are made by fans and fans will visit this site. When they read about the concept, they might want to get involved. While the wiki page itself is not a how-to guide, the site in question is directly related to the concept on the page. Do you think there is a more appropriate place where such a link should be posted, or do you feel that guide material such as this should not be included at all in the encyclopedia?--Sakky 18:47, 1 October 2006 (MST)
Personally, I see this site as primarily academic. I don't think we need links on how to make fanart, how to write fanfic, how to create Otaku Senshi, how to create cosplay costumes, how to make a website, how to make fansubs, or anything of that sort. I think it's here for the purpose of informing people on the concept of fandom and the things they do. If someone reads the article and decides, hey, this sounds like fun, they can figure it out for themselves. If things like this are included at all, IMHO, they should be in the website section if that ever gets created. Kerochan no Miko 19:11, 1 October 2006 (MST)
All right, I concede. You've convinced me.  :)--Sakky 19:14, 1 October 2006 (MST)
Now we just need to actually make the proposed website section so we have a place for links like that... Kerochan no Miko 19:15, 1 October 2006 (MST)
That seems like a daunting task gnarled with angry web masters and snarling flames. Is there already a discussion on what would qualify a site to be posted?--Sakky 19:27, 1 October 2006 (MST)

^ Sakky, I linked it back here because I was lazy. ^^; Also, I wanted viewers to see your descriptions here about the link. Concerning your last question, there had been some discussions about it before you joined, & it's expected to be done some time in the future. --210 23:07, 1 October 2006 (MST)

Sailor Comet[edit]

I know I haven't ever seen a "Sailor Comet" - I disagree that it's a "common" archetype. Please justify. Kerochan no Miko 11:24, 30 November 2006 (MST)

I was thinking this too, though I do know of a Sailor Asteroid (not a comet but another non-planet-non-star space phenomena) and Rosen drew a Sailor Hale-Bopp once but that was just for kicks, and there's a bunch of Sailor Chirons. --GracieLizzie 12:21, 30 November 2006 (MST)
I even had a Sailor Chiron once, though I spelled it all funky because I was 17... ^_^;; Kerochan no Miko 13:34, 30 November 2006 (MST)
Generically speaking, I have seen quite a few "Sailor Comet"s around, as well as "Sailor Star" which is a HUGELY popular one and should probably be on the list. What about Asteriod senshi...?--Sakky 08:46, 3 April 2007 (MST)
I would say that asteroid senshi fall under the "other planetary bodies" listing. And there are seriously just generic "Sailor Star" out there? Not any particular star? Kerochan no Miko 09:07, 3 April 2007 (MST)
I would say after Earth and Sun it's the next most popular. A search for "Sailor Star" on DeviantArt [1] reveals quite a few variations (as well as some Starlights mixed in). It's becoming popular to add another 'name' to them, such as Sailor Something Star, but there are still quite a few just plain old Sailor Star with no particular star affiliation.--Sakky 06:28, 30 May 2007 (MST)

Individual Senshi[edit]

Let's please try to keep this article neutral, about types of Otaku Senshi, instead of plugging fanfics for particular ones. Kerochan no Miko 09:19, 17 December 2006 (MST)

Article Cleanup[edit]

I'd like to have this as a featured article on the front page, possibly next month - can someone find a good image for it? As much as I like Rosen's drawing, black-and-white pencil doesn't really look good in a thumbnail on the front page. IMHO, of course. And if anyone wants to do some editing or adding or whatever in preparation, have at it. Kerochan no Miko 21:56, 17 December 2006 (MST)

SailorGalleries.com has some lovely color fanart of what must be HUNDREDS of fan senshi. The maintainer of the site usually has emails of the artists, and the creator herself even has her own duo of otaku senshi... maybe something there would be appropriate, if permission could be obtained?--Azurite 08:25, 18 January 2007 (MST)

New image at the top[edit]

Love it. --210 20:31, 17 February 2007 (MST)

^^; You know, Sailor Astera is one example of a pretty simple otaku senshi, but there are so many more examples of them ranging widely in style and design. Here are some examples by a fellow community member that incorporates a wider variety: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/39036572/ and http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/38186937/ Perhaps I could ask her and the creators of these characters if they would be willing to have one of these images up on the page to serve as a more diverse visual pool of examples? If that is too many people involved, I could also make a group image of my characters as they are pretty diverse in their design as well. --Sakky 06:28, 23 March 2007 (MST)
I didn't even notice that you'd made this comment at first. ^_^; The reason I used the image of Astera at the top is because we already have a "group" image farther down and I just wanted a single simple image to start the article out. It might be nice, though, to replace the current group picture, no matter how amusing it might be, with some examples of the archetypes we have listed in the article. Kerochan no Miko 08:00, 23 March 2007 (MST)
I certainly could find an example for each. Would we want to go that far? I could also find those types of senshi and create a group image.--Sakky 15:09, 23 March 2007 (MST)
I wouldn't say that we need an image of every one of the archetypes (that could get very cumbersome and ugly, very quickly), but a group picture including a few of them, perhaps? Kerochan no Miko 16:00, 23 March 2007 (MST)
I also didn't notice your comment in this section. lol I think the current top image is fine - it's elegant, simple &, in my opinion, quite representative. If you wanna introduce more varieties, they could be placed w/i the article contents below. --210 18:24, 23 March 2007 (MST)

ToT[edit]

But said people from ToT don't trust this site or the majority of people on this site, especially as said people from wikimoon caused a number of edit wars in SM topics on wikipedia.59.167.59.141 15:25, 22 March 2007 (MST)

1) What's ToT?
2) What does the supposed actions of one or a couple authors on Wikipedia have to do with WikiMoon? (I know I personally haven't edited any Sailor Moon-related articles on Wikipedia; I get enough of that here.)
3) What on earth are you talking about?
Kerochan no Miko 16:11, 22 March 2007 (MST)
ToT = Tower of Time an Otaku Senshi site Sakura is a member of, she's a mod on there forums. --GracieLizzie 18:55, 22 March 2007 (MST)
Hm. Okay. Well, I looked at the forums there and the only mention I found of Wikimoon was from last summer when some people made a comment about supposed inaccuracies on the site without going into detail. So I'm still confused about what drama we supposedly caused that would compel an anonymous user to come badmouth us on a talk page here. Kerochan no Miko 21:34, 22 March 2007 (MST)
I dunno either, but I don't really like digging for this stuff I just thought I'd say what ToT was. I don't like internet drama, it creates far too much tension. --GracieLizzie 02:41, 23 March 2007 (MST)
As far as I know, there is a very small number of people within the boards I am involved in, including ToT, that have a negative view of Wikimoon. The statement "said people from ToT don't trust this site or the majority of people on this site" seems inaccurate to me. Maybe a half dozen people out of the 300 or so users that dislike/have had some problems with people in general from Genvid. I can only assume this distrust/dislike has resulted in their not liking this newer project based on affiliation. That being said, more than JUST Genvid people are now a part of this project. Additionally, it seems to me that most of the board members on ToT and my own boards reference Wikimoon in a positive light as a growing source of information.
How did this even come up? XD--Sakky 06:28, 23 March 2007 (MST)
This site isn't Genvid, and it isn't Wikipedia, so judging people here based on either of those two sites is incredibly unfair. And it came up because 59.167.59.141 showed up and posted a snarky comment for reasons I have yet to understand. Kerochan no Miko 07:48, 23 March 2007 (MST)
Oh well, I guess since we agree it's a non-issue, then, it is! XD--Sakky 15:09, 23 March 2007 (MST)

New Section[edit]

There's is another section of this article that I could write, "sol-outfits" vs. "non-sol outfits," which is a common debate in the community and related to 'recolors' which could also be discussed here. But I also don't want to clutter it too much. XD What do you guys think?--Sakky 06:28, 23 March 2007 (MST)

I'm not quite sure what you mean, since I'm not involved in any of the fandom debates - are you talking about senshi from outside the solar system having different styles of sailor fuku? Kerochan no Miko 07:46, 23 March 2007 (MST)
Yes, pretty much. The debate is linked closely to 'recolors' which usually occurs when a fan takes a coloring book blank of a canon character and just fills in different colors without altering the lines at all. Recolors get a lot of crap from people sometimes for being not creative, but sometime an otaku senshi is actually from this Solar System, in which case it kind of makes sense for them to have an outfit similar to the canon senshi from this system. This is generally called a 'sol outfit.' The flip side of course is that senshi from other systems (Starlights for example) have different styled outfits. So, it's just another topic that is often discussed and debated in the otaku senshi community. If anything, I could simply just explain the terms, why they are used, and what they reference. I also wouldn't mind writing something about about recolors. Would that be an Archetype though?--Sakky 15:14, 23 March 2007 (MST)
I wouldn't really call that an archetype, per se. I think the bit about Sol system sailor fuku vs out of system sailor fuku could easily fit in the "debates" section, and then you could include a sentence or two about the "recolors" issue in there. Kerochan no Miko 16:00, 23 March 2007 (MST)
I added it. It's sketchy at best so feel free to edit as needed.--Sakky 08:43, 3 April 2007 (MST)
One thing... I may be wrong but. Strictly speaking I think it is inaccurate to say a character can be "from other solar systems", as the "Solar System" is a name exclusive to the planetary system of the star Sol (the Sun... which usually only gets called Sol in sci-fi and such anyway). It should be "from other planetary systems" really. --GracieLizzie 06:08, 4 April 2007 (MST)
"Solar system" can be used to refer to planets orbiting another star, but I have no problem with changing it to "planetary system" for precision. Kerochan no Miko 09:38, 4 April 2007 (MST)

^ Yeah, especially as the section title contains the word "Non-Sol," it could avoid some possible confusion. --210 18:15, 4 April 2007 (MST)

Literal Translation[edit]

"house warrior"! Love it. XD Thanks 210. --Sakky 19:56, 30 May 2007 (MST)

Monster of the Day?[edit]

Since when is a "monster of the day" senshi a "common" type of Otaku Senshi? I know I've never heard of it before, and a Google search for the given examples turns up exactly nothing, which makes me think this is another example of promoting a personal fanfic. Please justify or I will remove this section. Kerochan no Miko 22:13, 31 March 2009 (MST)

I found a picture on DeviantART of Nekonelle dressed as a Senshi. [2] Angie Y. 22:35, 31 March 2009 (MST)
One picture of a character does not a common archetype make. Unless you can come up with something compelling I still don't see any reason to keep it, for reasons previously stated on this talk page. Kerochan no Miko 23:11, 31 March 2009 (MST)
As no evidence was given, the section was removed. Please keep in mind the listed examples are intended to be common Otaku Senshi, and not just to plug an idea that the author thinks is a good one. This article needs to stay as neutral as possible. Kerochan no Miko 12:09, 2 April 2009 (MST)

I understand. Still, it's a fun idea when it WILL become common. For example, the Lemures were once normal humans. Angie Y. 13:20, 3 April 2009 (MST)

Should it become common like the other ones, I'm sure it could be added into the article, then. ^^ --210 21:29, 3 April 2009 (MST)
On Gaia Online, in a guild I'm in, we like to make avatars of Monster's of the Day as sailor senshi!MusicallyObsessedBoi 12:57, 28 March 2010 (MST)

Naru as a Senshi[edit]

I've heard several people claim that "Naoko said Naru was potentially a Sailor Senshi" but until someone can provide an actual quote for proof it doesn't belong in this article. It smacks of speculation and rumor to me. Kerochan no Miko 15:58, 9 April 2009 (MST)

No. She did, however, state in an interview that Mamoru was Sailor Earth. But if ever needed, she would have made Naru into Sailor Earth. I've yet to find the interview, though. MusicallyObsessedBoi 12:54, 28 March 2010 (MST)
So you have no answer to the question I actually asked and are just commenting to see yourself talk? Kerochan no Miko 13:29, 28 March 2010 (MST)
No, I'm stating that I've heard this from several people but I'm still trying to find the interview. I'm just trying to help. >.> MusicallyObsessedBoi 13:45, 28 March 2010 (MST)

Cliche[edit]

Should a section about common cliche's in otaku senshi be added?

Also, I may have missed this, but should a link be added to The Otaku Senshi Resource be added for anyone who needs a guide to making an otaku senshi? MusicallyObsessedBoi 12:53, 28 March 2010 (MST)

By "cliché" you mean this? That info about Sailor Sun, Earth, Nemesis, etc... is already mentioned in the Common Character Archetypes section. Silver 13:03, 28 March 2010 (MST)
I'm talking about being related to the canon senshi, neo sailor senshi, villains turned into good senshi (excluding Animamates/Galaxia), adding your own otaku senshi to a season of the anime/a new season as an addition to the canon senshi, etc. MusicallyObsessedBoi 13:13, 28 March 2010 (MST)
As Silver says, I think the "common character archetypes" section covers that pretty well. This isn't intended to be an exhaustive resource on Otaku Senshi, just an article about the phenomenon. Kerochan no Miko 13:29, 28 March 2010 (MST)