Talk:Galactica Myosotis Alpestris

This article will really need some discussion of the weird katakana used for the name (presumably in error, but nobody really knows). dooky 15:15, 10 August 2006 (MST)

I have a problem here when it says: «item required: none» and that it's pretty oblivious that she's using either an oar or a spear to perform the attack plus I've added a precision about the kind of Forget-me-not the attack's name is taken from.--Sailor Simon

She was holding a spear, yes. But there's nowhere that says she has to be holding it, or that it was in any way part of the attack. Kerochan no Miko 17:09, 12 June 2009 (MST)

Yes the main fact that it's the spear that sending the energy blast is it not? Yes it is! I think it's pretty damn oblivious. Another thing nothing says she doesn't has to be holding it, so your argument is completely irrelevant. It's like for Venus Love and Beauty Shock, it's says no were she needs the Love Whip, we assume that she does because of the obliviousness of the attack itself and besides the only time she uses this attack is with the spear so it would be more than natural and logical to assume she needs it to perform the attack. Finally can I just say the picture speaks for itself? There's a limit to being stubborn you know. If you're going to remove something at least have descent arguments please!--Sailor Simon 23:23, 12 June 2009 (MST)

And I disagree that it's "obvious" at all, so therein lies the problem. The one solitary picture that shows her performing the attack includes her holding up a spear as she calls out the name. Could the spear be used for the attack? Sure. Could it be not part of the attack? Also very possible. Unless you have proof that something is true then you can't claim that it is. This isn't "being stubborn," as you seem to think, it's trying to be accurate. Kerochan no Miko 21:32, 12 June 2009 (MST)

This spear seems to be the main origin of the energy blast. This could possibly be an indication that she needs that spear in order to perform the attack but this point however, hasn't been neither confirm nor denied.
This is speculation. Speculation = not allowed; please see the style guidelines.
Kerochan no Miko 13:13, 13 June 2009 (MST)

This energy blast seem to come from a spear Lethe was holding while performing the attack.

Fact not speculation, the picture speaks for itself.--Sailor Simon 19:44, 13 June 2009 (MST)

Still speculation. What is "obvious" to you isn't to me. Kerochan no Miko 21:05, 13 June 2009 (MST)

Sailor Lethe is seen holding a spear while performing the attack, the utility of that spear however, is unknown.

Nothing but facts. I think it's important to at least put a note about it, what do you say?--Sailor Simon 12:05, 14 June 2009 (MST)

Sailor Lethe was also wearing a dress. And had her hair in braids. And was in Sagittarius Zero Star. While holding a spear. Are any of these details important? Who knows? Once you start stating the obvious that may or may not be related, where do you stop?

I honestly don't understand why you're so fixated on this one tiny nitpicky detail. Yes. She had a spear. SO WHAT. I think that right now it's about as much of a compromise as we're going to get, and further arguments aren't going to get anywhere, so I would ask that you please drop this issue. Kerochan no Miko 12:24, 14 June 2009 (MST)

IT'S A WEAPON FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!! why would Naoko put a spear in there if it didn't had any importance? I believe it's important to AT LEAST put a note about it so they'll be no confusion nor questioning regarding the spear and it's importance for as far as we know. It serves a purpose. I'm fixated on that point because as a fan, I didn't understand the fact that there was no mention whatsoever about the spear. Plus in the french dub of the manga the attack is named Lance Galactique literally Galactica Spear. So for all these good reasons I think it would be fair of you to let me at least put a note about it. I, for myself don't understand why simply putting a note about it is such a big deal for you.--Sailor Simon

If you can't talk about this calmly then we aren't going to talk about it at all.

And again, you're starting to speculate. Why would Naoko do it? I don't know. You don't know. This article is not an appropriate place to start wondering about it, because the article is a place for presenting facts, not "Sailorsimon's ideas about what Naoko's intentions might have been." Maybe stuff gets left out this way, but there's so much speculation and misinformation already floating around on the web that I don't want any in this wiki. Kerochan no Miko 12:09, 15 June 2009 (MST)

Look I just want to put a note that basically says something like: Though Sailor Lethe holds a spear while performing the attack, it is unknown if the spear is necessary or required to perform said attack or The relevance of that spear during the attack is unknown. Just a simple note explaining that we don't know if the spear is necessary or not. Why? So that if anybody ever stop at this article, sees the image and wonder Hey is that spear useful to perform the attack? that person could be answered. I use to think the spear was vital, you made me learn that that fact was unknown, thanks, could we do the same for everyone else? That's all, that was my point all along, see I'm ready to compromise. Just a simple note to clear that point out that's all. Why is it such a problem to you, a simple note like for the Crescent Moon Cutter in PGSM. Maybe even just a note in the Enemy Attack box in the Item Required section something like: Item Required: Unknown possibly/perhaps a Spear. So, do you understand my point and if so; what say you?--Sailor Simon 07:11 16 June 2009 (MST)

I already changed the infobox to say "Unknown". I'd thought that was entirely sufficient. Kerochan no Miko 12:42, 16 June 2009 (MST)

Very well then.--Sailor Simon 15:59 16 June 2009 (MST)

I fixed your indenting again. (If you look you'll see that each consecutive comment has an additional : at the beginning? That's how it should be.) Kerochan no Miko 13:00, 16 June 2009 (MST)